| A summary of the talk
delivered by Prof Jagdish Sheth under the
Leaders Speak series held on 15 October
2007 at Chennai
I went to the states in 1961 and became
a professor in two years without finishing
my doctorate. John Howard was my mentor
and I went to Columbia University with him,
I came back to India for the first time
in 1968 to teach at IIM Calcutta. Today
I find that for an Indian to do well you
don’t have to go abroad, now we can
do well in India.
I am a refugee from Burma. I would be happy
to be back in Kutch, Gujarat. I come from
a Gujarati family where education is not
important but business ownership is more
important. The best entrepreneurs are all
college dropouts. They are driven by what
they want to do and not by education. Exceptions
are of course technology people. It was
Chennai which realised my potential out.
As I was a good student, I was allowed to
study. I wanted to be a CA. I loved accounting.
Gujaratis working for someone is considered
dumb and working for no money is more so.
They sent me to America. If you take a grain
of wheat and make it in to a loaf of bread,
the value add is about 4 to 5 times. If
you take a rough diamond and polish it,
value added is 15 to 20 times. If you take
a human being and polish him with education,
nurturing, either as employee or as a child,
the value add is infinite. That is the power
of India. We have a talent which now is
becoming globally recognized.
Self destructive habits. This came from
most insightful question I have been asked
by CEOs of many companies. And experts like
Dr C K Prahlad became advisors to companies.
The question he asked was why companies
fail. I thought companies were immortal,
humans are mortal.
How many of you remember Metal Box, one
of the best companies in Calcutta. ITC is
only survivor from those days. So why would
companies fail? It is universal, doest matter
whether in India, or Japan, Complacency.
Bad habit; you acquire. Complacency comes
out clearly as one of the seven bad habits.
They don’t have the vision. But key
point is, they are unable or unwilling to
change with times. Inability I can understand,
but unwillingness is more surprising.
There is the story of most successful entrepreneur
who created a multi billion dollar business,
only company to compete against IBM called
Digital Corporation. Brilliant scientist
from MIT, and he simply refused to listen
to his own people. All the outside consultants,
his own board members, said PC will take
over the function of mini and main frame
computers. And he simply said impossible.
Said PC is a toy. What does that tell me?
Often we create basic belief systems at
our educational level. We are brain washed
by our professors who say this is the right
theory. He could never imagine that a PC
could do a job of a main frame or mini computer.
Infact, he goes the other direction deliberately
by investing billion dollars in trying to
create a super computer and collapses completely.
He is still alive and kicking. I watched
the trend about this company. There was
Dr Wang, he is hardcore American Brahmin,
intellectuals, they are unwilling to change.
My second story begins with IBM. I had
interviewed John Ackers for a telephone
company as the CEO of customer company on
how to motivate people. We were in his office.
The Camera was on. When we finished interview,
he says do you know when I close that door,
I am so irritated that I pace around my
desk as a caged animal as I am not able
to make any difference in my own company.
Often CEOs despite their own powers do not
have leadership to transform their own company.
The bureaucracy took over. Finally board
woke up, got in an outsider, Luge Hushner,
brilliant CEO and transformed IBM within
44 months. Internal succession planning
began to haunt them. This is often very
true by Indian setting, especially family
businesses. Something that jolts the group.
In the group there is crisis management
like the Thapar group. Now there is a young
person called Gautam Thapar who has totally
transformed the company. Have you seen the
value creation he has done both on BILT
and Crompton Greaves?
Same thing with Kumaramangalam. He brings
in a professional to support him and transforms
the company. He has diversified into newer
businesses. In the stock market, it is not
Wipro, TCS that is moving the market. It
went up because mundane industries like
steel are announcing their performance.
India will get globalised much faster than
imagined, not thro export oriented economy.
But by major acquisitions of foreign large
corporations. Hindalco buys largest company
in America, you hear Corus steel, Mittal.
Consolidating worldwide position will be
considered. World will wakeup and say wow,
I never thought an Indian company can own
a European company. Governments of those
countries will allow an Indian corporation
to buy them. So rupee has to rise. I have
been forecasting rise of rupee for sometime.
There is no change back again the other
way. Rupee will get hardened as a currency.
You have to go through gradual process of
reforming the currency.
Most insightful question, why good companies
fail. Lessons of management and leadership
that we learnt today don’t seem to
work for these big companies. The 1970,
fortune 500 list had already vanished by
1983. Now it is less than one half of the
fortune 500 list in 1970, as newer companies
have become a part of fortune 500. Nobody
thought of Walmart, Google, Microsoft. Average
corporate life expectancy in Japan and Europe
is now down to 12.5. US is about the same.
For example, with the EU that took place,
one market regulation changed from 45 years
of life expectancy of a German company,
it is now down to 18 years and this data
is slightly older. British have the most
dramatic one. Life expectancy is down to
4.5 years. This year more than 50 percent
of large British companies are all owned
by non-British. They believe that foreigners
will revitalize those companies. They see
more asset value in those companies than
the original owners.
Most of this arises because, on the way
to success, I have taken the analog of the
human body. In other words, we become more
successful and affluent we acquire bad habits.
Just like what we know what we should be
doing, like diet, exercise, we are not doing
it is obvious. Once we get in trouble we
change,. For example, early warning signs
are there, but I don’t do exercise
or change so I get mild heart attack. Within
one week, all bad habits are gone and good
habits come in. Have you seen these guys
start walking. They eat bread with no butter.
So it is possible to change. Humans are
the most versatile resource that can be
molded which is interesting, that is the
main message. Therefore the role of the
CEO of a company or his leadership is like
a doctor. Like a doctor, first principle
of Bhagvad Gita and other religions, detached
commitment - don’t get emotionally
attached to the business. Doctors don’t
get attached to the patients. So they are
much more objective.
The worst thing you can do in a company
is to put balanced scorecard as a technique.
That will not diagnose the real problem.
It will tell you if what you are measuring
is ok. Indian doctors are trained to first
look at you and say if everything is right.
Older traditions, ayurvedic guys are master
at this game. They will then talk to you;
they have the time to talk to you. it more
clinical approach to leadership than makeshift
approach to leadership. Boards of company
and compensation committee in America, manipulate
the numbers to make sure that they get the
salary bonus and stock options. What does
this mean in leadership? I found this guy
who asked me the question, observed him
and found that a typical CEO in America
is driven by a chauffer, is insulated from
the environment. Goes through elevator or
lift, goes to his room and is in ivory tower.
Everything comes to his office is pre authorized
by his directive force and they only allow
him to see things they have predetermined.
He is in a farce of reality. So we have
mandated now that CEOs have to take time
out in the field and touch five stake holders
that determine the future of the company,
customers, employees, suppliers. Community
in which you are putting your resources,
people in charge of community are you pleasing
them or not. And investors.
Here are seven bad habits –
We are suffering from arrogance. With success
Indian corporation, Indian entrepreneurs
and students are the worst and are getting
more arrogant. Especially at the top schools,
they think they are demi Gods. It is self-destructive.
Never works if you are arrogant.
Denial of new reality is another one. Three
kinds Disruptive technology – like
PC, or cell phone. They believe that only
way you can house intelligence is in the
central office. They deliberately keep it
there , distributed the intelligence. That’s
what happened in cell phone. As powerful
as microprocessor mode, shifting power of
PC , from PC to mobile phones. Telephone
guys used to laugh at them. Technology shifted
to edge of network. Core competency goes.
Same thing analog to digital – radical
change. There are hardcore engineers who
believe that analog is a superior technology.
Then, HP comes in with digital instrument
to measure, Japanese follow up, then the
company goes bankrupt.
Compentency dependence. Compentency may
become your change. Infact, more competency
specialist you are, less you are able to
do anything. Competitive myopia. Customers
don’t care whether you are in rail
road, bus, customer just wants transportation.
Rail roads don’t know how to run buses.
I have seen companies getting destroyed
in the US due to diversification. CBS, a
TV company, says we are in the tent and
recreation bus. They go and buy out coffee
centre, resorts, publishing company and
collapse financially. It was followed by
NBC, ABC, they collapsed. United Airlines
they actually diversified, bought hotels
they collapsed. License raj is gone, the
right strategy would be to diversify into
as many businesses as possible, as under
license raj you have the political favor
in your favor. After you get the political
signals right, grab the opportunity, and
as you have capital, you can go from steel
to a tea to a cellular company. But in a
deregulated economy, there is no way you
can fight competition. So you begin to reduce
the number of businesses. Aditya Birla reduced
to 6 businesses, GE has reduced from 100s
to 12 business groups. That’s the
competitive myopia. We really must not become
myopic about who is our competitor. Beginning
is like a marathon running. Everyone is
running. In marathon you need stamina, and
it comes from complex carbohydrates or pasta.
Pasta in a start up business is money. Couple
of them in front and on the side is the
only competitors. IBM focuses on Accenture.
Any company that has a dominant market
share, above 50 percent, always have inherent
cross subsidization. They cross subsidize
some customers, some products. Ernst &
Young, on the CPA side. There have 4000
clients worldwide. 20 percent of your customers
in this case have 80 percent of your revenue.
Cost of serving those customers, comes down
gradually. In this case, they were profitable
in less than 400 accounts. Work in progress,
inventory, sale of asset etc. here you had
to do CA by account and not by products.
They sell this technique called ABC. I said
you guys are not using on yourself. If you
did that, you find less than 400 clients
are profitable. Today if you are small to
medium sized, publicly listed company they
don’t want to do work for you. For
them today largest account is Coca Cola.
It is cross subsidization that makes the
difference. And always in cross subsidization,
the little guy is the loser. You may be
the lowest cost producers, but who cares
as the concentration of profits is in a
handful of accounts. Major Civil aviation
Industry has left 5 percent market share
to a new entrant like Air Deccan here. What
is your cost strategy? How do you capture
share, Price. You drop price, almost unthinkable,
Ryanair just announced that they would cross
Atlantic from Europe to America for 20 pounds.
They say they have captive passengers for
6 to 7 hours. It sounds like a shopping
mall. Do you get charged to be there. Shopping
malls recover their cost through the margins
built into the merchandising. IA and JA
are losing share. They are big boys. They
have 60 percent. What would they do? They
drop their price. If they drop their price
they will lose more money. It is no win
situation., worst thing they can do.You
have to do reversal. Raise the prices and
selectively reduce price for those customers
or routes where you have competition.
Turf wars. Every successful company has
enormous turf wars because I find that companies
actually are designed by the same market.
It is a 50 storey building. 50th storey
is a common lobby. You have towers, tower
A is engineering, B is manufacturing or
operations, C is sales and marketing, D
is customer support. There are other towers
like product management. You have IT , finance,
HR. They all hang around outside the lobby.
There are smoke free rooms. The boss at
the top of the function says, if you communicate
without my awareness I will kill you! There
are couple of months in a year you can get
on the lift to get the approval. Those are
budgeting months. They are all fighting
for hare for capex power, operating expenses.
They put up a task force. You put an engineering
guy, along with manufacturing, sales, customer
support. It is easier to get German and
French together, but hard to get an engineer
and a sales guy together. Rather than cooperate,
they fight among themselves. This is the
disfunctionality of task force and that’s
the turf war. And in India the turf wars
are not CEOs and professional bureaucrats
but the family. Sons and son-in laws disputes,
so there is a break up. TVS and Bajaj, Birlas
have gone through all these. They basically
divide themselves. It works. Take Reliance
Ambani brothers, by separating they did
better.
Role of leadership is like a medical doctor.
Watch for the non-traditional. Just like
in the body something is happening that
we don’t know, and suddenly we find
that we have BP, cholesterol or arthritis,
it could happen either aging, or physically
picking up bad habit, and your job as a
CEO or as a leader is to break that habit.
Focus on that one as if it is the most critical
thing you would do. Do not delegate that
responsibility. Problem with transformation
is that if you make it more like crisis
management, no one joins you. In adversity
situation, how can you make it energizing.
Role of leadership is active intervention
all the time.
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