A
summary of the Keynote Address delivered
by Mr S Mahalingam, Chief Financial Officer
& ED, Tata Consultancy Services Ltd
at the Valedictory Session of MMA Annual
Cnvention 2008 held on 15 & 16 Feb 08
at Taj Coromandel Hotel, Chennai.
I thought in this address I would talk
about the impact of globalization in finance
and governance but I essentially wanted
to talk about the Indian multi nationals
that are emerging at this moment in time.
There is a fair amount of personal reflection
that will take place because of the kind
of growth that TCS has had during this period.
First I will start with a quotation because
this essentially reflects the experience
of the United States as a Government as
it ventured into another area which is in
Iraq, Afghanistan and so on. And it also
reflects the issues that they were facing
in some sense of globalization. I do not
know how many of you have listened to Donald
Rumsfield, US Secretary of State 2002. It
has always been a pleasure listening to
him because you could never understand what
he said at any point in time. In Rumsfields’s
briefing, he once said, “As we know
there are known knowns. There are things
we know we know. We also know there are
known unknowns. This is to say we know there
are some things that we do not know. But
there are also unknown unknowns, the ones
we don’t know, we don’t know.”
If this did not confuse you, then you got
to listen to Alan Greenspan after this.
The first thing I would discuss today is,
when does an Indian Company become a Global
Corporation because there is a difference
between operating globally and being a Global
Corporation. I will first talk about this.
How do you govern a global Corporation
because for most of us it has been a learning
at this time? When you become a global corporation
obviously you are accessing global capital
also, of course everyone is accessing capital
money because the money that is coming in
is through the foreign institutional investors
and so on but again handling global investors,
accessing global capital, there is a process
that we need to go through. And most important
of all, as you become a multi national,
with of course head quarters in India, how
do you build competency for that? Of course
the competency will go beyond having Indians
as the only managers. There are going to
be global managers. But again building competency
is the kind of issue that you need to address.
So essentially, many companies in India,
have been companies with international operations
because they have been exporting to a number
of places in different countries and so
on. They know how to operate internationally.
But then what is it that is going to transform
them into a multi national corporation which
essentially means that they will become
a global corporation. There are issues in
terms of risk management: issues of financial
reporting that we need to get into. Treasury,
because currency is presenting a big issue
at this moment in time. For a long time,
I have been part of TCS and there is one
thing constant till about 2003 and that
is that Rupee will continue to depreciate
and in fact you can be extremely inefficient
but still, if you are in the export business
you will do very well because Rupee would
continue to depreciate. It would depreciate
at a rate faster than you would have imagined.
Had you been more efficient in collecting
the money and bringing it to India, you
would have been considered a fool at that
time. But things changed since 2003. Since
then Rupee of course has been in a volatile
state but of late is has started appreciating.
Therefore, currency management or treasury
management is becoming very important and
the issues with regards to MIS and controls
in this relation. There is corporate governance
also. These are the kinds of issues that
we need to address as a company transforms
itself from being a company with international
operations into a multinational corporation.
The mind-set is that if it is a multi-country
operating company, there is an India-centric
view of all issues. Because it ultimately
comes down to one profit and loss account,
one balance sheet and that balance sheet
turns out to be in Rupee and therefore there
is an India-centric view of everything.
Is it going to be beneficial to me ultimately
as an Indian corporation? It is a very simple
structure for compliance because you essentially
would have branches if at all you require
any presence in different places and therefore
from a compliance perspective, you are essentially
looking at India as a place where you are
going to be. Of course I am not ruling out
the fact that you would be compliant in
different jurisdiction and so on but still
it is a fairly simple structure that you
would evolve because you do not really want
to deal with complexity. There is an Indian
workforce that you are dependant on. It
is culturally an Indian organization, in
fact, in most places, you would end up talking
in the regional language that you are used
to. And therefore it is culturally a very
simple kind of thing because everybody would
be in a homogeneous kind of set up.
Funding is again India-centric because
there are restrictions and you would have
an India-centric view of how are going to
raise resources. And of course, how do you
know you are compliant, so essentially,
you rely on audits and various other processes
to ensure that you have effective control
right through the organization. But as you
turn into a global corporation and that
is where certainly in our own case, that
as we became a multi national, we had to
change our mindset considerably. In fact
there are many discussions that would take
place, we have some document that we were
going to be looking at and ultimately the
question was is it going to be a document
that only Indians employees would sign or
is it a document that every one else, the
global employees would sign? What kind of
issues that arise from very many matters?
Because things are very different in different
parts of the world. There are cultural issues,
transparency that will make sense to lots
of people globally, global workforce and
dealing with global workforce is not easy
at all. Not only is it in terms of communication
but in terms of the values and systems that
they have, the kind of intuitive feelings
that they have for various kinds of things
and how do you communicate with everyone?
Tax, which becomes extremely important
as you go away from an India-centric view
of things. Funding, you can access funding
everywhere and how do you make sure you
optimize the whole thing? Processes becomes
more important, because you are essentially
operating globally and what kind of processes
that you have, global best practices.
One of the most important things is the
high level of mobility. I am not talking
about Indians moving to different parts
of the world. There are people from different
parts of the world that are coming to India.
There is a fair amount of mobility. So what
distinguishes a global multinational from
an Indian company with multi-country operation,
from a financial perspective? Some of these
we will examine as we go along but there
is a very big change in the mindset.
How do you know that you have arrived?
I borrowed a term from Geoffrey More where
he wrote a book on “Crossing the Chasm”.
How do you know that you have crossed the
chasm and not fallen in between? You know
that you have arrived when you essentially
adopt a global corporation as a strategy.
This is an important mindset change because
now there are questions such as where do
you want to invest? Where do you want to
allocate your resources? How do you know
which is the best place for doing things
rather than looking at an India-centric
strategy and so on.
The second question is how well are you
recognized as a global corporation? If I
were to look at TCS, how do I get a client
to perceive that he is placing TCS at the
same level as Accenture, IBM, Computer Sciences
Corporation or any one of those? And therefore
you need to be in a position to operate
as a global corporation and as well as a
local corporation in different countries.
How do you invest strategically at different
places? This is an important question because
it is assumed that India is the best place
for many things from the cost perspective.
But India is not the best place for many
things. It makes sense to go somewhere else
and do things. So how do you list strategically
and most important for us, how do we to
listen to people all around the world? How
do we innovate globally not in a structured
fashion but at the edge of chaos? Once we
have started dealing with it in that fashion,
then you know that you have arrived. In
fact in one of the discussions that we had
in our Board of Directors meeting, we have
an international board of 12 people at this
time of which about 6 people do not hold
Indian passports. When we did not raise
this question of us being recognized as
an Indian corporation because we are largely
Indians at the top management level, one
of the overseas Directors said that does
not mean anything. As far as we are concerned,
we have crossed that stage and we do have
a number of Indians as heads of global corporations.
So the cultural capability of Indians to
perceive things in a different way is recognized
and people know that you are not essentially
looking at it from a narrow regionalistic
or country-wide perspective. Therefore it
is not the nationality of the person or
the group of people who might be involved
at the top management level, but whether
the management can think in terms of really
looking at it from a global perspective.
Can they ensure that the innovation ideas
that come in from different parts of the
organization get received with the same
amount of attention and seriousness as it
would get when it comes from their own country’s
organization.
Now let me get on to what I call the known
unknowns, borrowing the term from Rumsfield’s
phrase. When you start looking at the risk
profile of the organization and this of
course represents the kind of things that
we look at from a TCS point of view, there
are various things that come up. There are
strategy drivers, we are essentially facing
country economic risks at various points
in time, it could be in terms of specific
industry risks that one might be facing
at different points in time. So there are
very many strategy drivers where you have
to look at how each of the components is
progressing in the world. Then there are
of course the finance drivers because as
I talked about earlier, you would tend to
look at racing resources from any part of
the world and once you do that, then you
get into a whole host of things.
Then there are of course selling drivers
which is in terms of clients, whether they
are growing and so on. Then there are the
delivery drivers and delivery need not come
from India itself. There are more drivers
including security, legal drivers and so
on and at last there are the people drivers.
People drivers could be from a global corporation.
And therefore, when you start looking at
it from the risk management perspective,
and how are you going to balance the various
risks, it is always essential that you come
up with a good framework where you can identify
and assess the impact of that risk, likelihood
of occurrence, what kind of mitigation plans
and finally how you can plan for taking
care of that risk. This risk management
becomes a far more complex process as you
deal with it as a global corporation than
as you would deal with it as an Indian corporation.
Because you will have to know what kind
of risk you are going to accept, what plans
you are taking to reduce the risk and can
you transfer the risk. For instance, by
insurance I could transfer the risk or avoid
those risks. And then what kind of a risk
management plan that I am going to be implementing.
And what am I essentially going to monitor.
Because as you go into this global corporation
scenario, the complexity of this dimension
becomes far bigger than usual.
Let me just illustrate one of the other
risk parameters that I keep dealing with
on a regular basis. I call it the known
unknowns because we know that we do not
know. If someone comes and tells me that
the Rupee is going to be appreciating, that
is the stand that of course I take, but
I really do not know if that is the course
that the Rupee would take. Just to go back
to 2004, before the elections were announced,
we all thought that the Rupee was going
to continue to appreciate and when the elections
were announced, the decisions were different
from what was expected and the Rupee depreciated.
Just about a year back, around 2006, 2007,
the average rate per dollar was a little
over Rs 45. Today of course, we are talking
about Rs 39.50 and we have seen periods
before that where we had seen Rs 43 and
so on. So it has been volatile in this field.
But if you are a global corporation, you
have all kinds of risks, economic risks,
exposure because you are dealing with multiple
currencies.
There are different degrees of complexities
that I do not want to get into at this stage
here. When we have operations in Brazil
which is servicing customers and also in
Spain and so on, there are all kinds of
currency risks that are coming in at those
stages. So there is an economic exposure
that takes place and there is a transaction
exposure and of course this could be taken
care of through the “Hedging process”.
So there are these known unknowns. The point
that I want to make here is that you have
got to be in a position to add this as a
major competency as you become a global
corporation. And this would essentially
separate a good global corporation from
another corporation which is not global
yet.
But then, the complexity is even growing
bigger, because there is an India-centric
view that you can take at this point in
time because all your profit and loss account
and your balance sheets is in Rupees so
you would essentially look at that as a
functional currency and you would tend to
deal with that. But as you operate in different
places and as there are interconnections
among various places and so on, then it
gets even more complex as you go along.
So can you then move on from having a corporate
treasury head-quartered in India which essentially
looks at it from an India-centric view to
having a global kind of treasury? We do
not yet have in my company a global treasury
of operation, in the sense that we essentially
control everything from India, but as we
look at the complexity of dealing with operations
in 40 countries, there are all kinds of
complexities in various places, subsidiaries,
sub-subsidiaries, various currencies, risk
patterns and so on. There are pricing advantages
in terms of being able to get the same amount
of cover for different places and therefore
there are off shore markets that provide
you with pricing advantages and so why would
you not optimize it? For instance in the
case of TCS, we are hedged to the tune of
about 3.1 billion USD at this point in time.
And by any standards that is a fairly large
amount of hedging that any global corporation
has and therefore you really start getting
worried about the liquidity in the market
that you are operating in for facilitating
that kind of curve, and what kind of turn-around
time that you can have and so on. So this
is another complexity which essentially
arises.
Let’s look at another level as you
build a global corporation. The whole financial
reporting process, because one of the things
is that there are presence in different
countries and entities, there is a global
workforce which creates its own issues.
There is the MNA activity that I will show
you later in terms of the number of MNAs
that we have done ourselves. Mergers and
Acquisitions themselves present issues in
terms of how it gets integrated into the
accounting statements. There is of course
no room for errors because in any case multi-country
audit team coordination. Because you are
essentially getting into different countries
and you have reasonable size operation in
different places. And time differences that
exist and multi dimensional view of financial
performance. More importantly a challenge
I face on a regular basis is the issue of
seriousness. I think it was a couple of
years back that we were closing the accounts
for the year 2005-2006 and it turned out
to be around the Good Friday time period
and in South America, I could not find anyone
to work at that time. So what do you do?
It is not like a large operation but you
still have operations there. So it becomes
a bit of a challenge there. But that is
of course a cultural and logistics issue.
You need to have an extremely good system
to run a global corporation and of course
real time recording of transactions, individual
country financial statements, consolidation
and so on. How do you standardize the whole
thing? Is it through reporting tax, validation,
finalization? The point that I want to emphasise
here is that it is not just one competency
having people proficient in one place or
one area, but you are essentially looking
at a multi country competency in these areas
and the various enablers are single ERP
systems or technology standardization. You
can have a common auditor planning for contingencies
and organizational commitment and focus.
When you look at the reporting standards
you have to look at adherence to global
accounting and reporting standards. You
get away from looking at it purely from
your own country point of view, frequencies
of audits and boards reviews because you
are spread all over. There are issues that
you need to face and regulatory requirements
that really take place at different jurisdictions,
especially for listed companies which are
listed beyond one place. Therefore, the
known unknowns as I call it and the reason
why I call it that is because a question
like what does the future look like is a
known unknown. But the present reporting
practices are because you have a home country
gap for everyone, so that by itself is a
complexity if I am operating in Brazil,
Hungary and so on. So that is a generally
accepted accounting practice that you need
to be able to adopt that country specific
gap for subsidiaries in various countries
and consolidated US gap because the investors
want to look at it from one of those accepted
patterns whether it is an IFRS or US gap.
But of course the future looks like moving
towards a global adaptation of IFRS which
hopefully will make my life simpler as we
go along. But today it is a fairly complex
one for running a global corporation.
The various benefits that we are really
looking at from a best practices point of
view, near real time transaction accounting,
early attention to issues are ones that
you have got to pay attention to because
you have all kinds of complexities arising
at various places and so on. You have to
satisfy auditors at different countries
and if you do not take up issues at an early
stage as you are getting into a complex
transaction, especially if I am doing mergers
and acquisitions, then there are delays
that could have a catastrophic consequence
to the final reporting schedule that I might
have. Extensive use of ERP systems and technology,
but then there are skills and deployment
issues at different places, building technical
accounting skills and so on.
The other one is the global regulatory
requirement. Again it is a known unknown.
And there are all kinds of regulatory requirements
and as you spread yourself, you have got
to be sure that you do not have an issue
of ethics at different places. Then you
have got the ability to generate a lot of
in house expertise in terms of handling
things. Extensive use of technology becomes
very important. High standards of corporate
governance, legal issues and then you are
also dealing with different regulatory bodies
such as SEBI, SEC, Financial Services Authorities
in the UK, Sarbanes-Oxley act and so on.
So there are many things you have to consider.
And then of course MIS itself is a very
complex piece because you are essentially
having a multi dimensional view of everything
and ultimately you want to make sure that
the project makes profit and our profit
from dealing with the customer is as expected
but you also have to look at the geography
and see whether that geography is making
profits and so on. Or the various expert
groups within the organization, whether
they are delivering their performance requirements
and so on. So as a global corporation, there
are very many different views that come
in and add to that is the complexity of
converting it into one currency and making
people look at it in that fashion makes
it for a bigger challenge.
I talked about accessing capital from different
parts of the world and once you do that
there are all kinds of issues that really
happen. You have investors from different
countries and ones who need to know how
your organization is shaping up at different
points in time. There is a fair amount of
interaction that one needs to have. So developing
a network of analysts and investors, a good
quality of investors that you want to have
for your own organization, marketing function
insight finance for the relations activity,
role of conscience keeper for the management
because this is very critical in the sense
that you want to make sure that whatever
you are reporting is accurate and helping
build share holder value, share holders
are spread across various countries, and
how do you do that is another issue that
comes in. So therefore when you are really
looking at the governance issue how do you
build a board for a multi national corporation
and that is one thing that we learn fairly
early in the game. As I said six people
do not have Indian passports and so on,
and still they are the ones who are going
to give you advice constantly and guide
you in your own deliberations and so on.
Do you have the right kind of people? They
are the ones who are going to throw the
search light over what I would call as the
unknown unknowns.
Because you do not know that you do not
know. They are the ones who are going to
guide and do they have the capability to
guide? You cannot really have an Indian
board to guide you at that point in time.
There are different sensitivities that come
in and in our own case, when we were looking
at affirmative action and there were certain
things that we thought we would adopt as
a board, there was a Chinese board member
who turned around and asked how does it
apply to these countries and what kind of
issues? You have not been there signing
something that is not relevant to India
but you are signing something which is relevant
to the globe. So we said we would take a
look at it in a different fashion and therefore
they are the ones who are essentially throwing
the search light on what I call the unknown
unknowns. Technology and innovation oriented
in our case because that is the competency
that is required and in fact amongst our
directors we have a professor from Harvard
Business School, Clayton M Christensen,
who is considered to be a very big authority
in innovation; we have Thyagarajan who is
the Asia Head for GSK and there is also
another person, Rod Sommer who is to be
the Chairman of Deutsche Telekom.
So there are people who are technology
savvy and innovation oriented within the
organization. You have to structure the
meetings extremely well because you are
getting them at various points and how do
you do that? You have got to raise issues
at an early stage of thinking within the
organization so that you get the benefit
of views which means that you really need
to do a lot of forward planning. It is not
just the main Board. What about the subsidiaries?
How do you make sure that they follow the
same kind of approach that you would take?
What kind of sensitivity that you have at
those levels? How do you remunerate an international
Board? So that becomes an important issue.
And result-orientation, strategy and operations,
those are the kind of values that they bring
into the organization. So this cannot be
lost sight of as you build an organization.
TCS has a presence in 40 countries and
presently operate in 150 offices across
the world including India, 86 delivery centres
in 18 different countries and so on. Since
we are spread all over, how do I know that
we are operating efficiently in Quito in
Ecuador, where we have an office or Bogota
in Columbia where we have an office or even
in Yokohama in Japan and so on? And so there
are things that we need to worry about.
How do I enter into new markets? How do
I make a decision whether I want to go to
Bogota in Colombia? Ability to service customers
wherever they operate, follow the sun model,
can I create a different proposition by
which a customer in the US will get served
for 24 hours not just the 8 hours that I
serve them from India but can I serve them
from South America, Europe and so on. Therefore
I give them a 24 hour operation. Challenges
would be building a scale in each geography.
A few years back when we were looking at
what we need to do, we did not imagine that
we would have anything like 3500 people
in Brazil which is what we have at this
moment in time. In fact we would not have
imagined 1200 people in San Diego, Chile.
In fact many of these places, when we have
internal meetings and I go there, I cannot
understand a thing because it is either
Portuguese or Spanish that gets spoken and
of course there is always a person who translates
and I hope that he certainly does a correct
job of it. There are issues also in those
fronts. Building scale in each geography,
political risks, currency risks, compliance
requirements and so on.
As you build a global corporation, obviously
MNA becomes very important. But in our business
there is one more in terms of taking a job
from a customer or a customer says I want
to transfer people to you. The credibility
of India is so high these days that people
do not have an issue coming to an Indian
Corporation. About 10 years back, I remember
a deal that we were doing and we had to
have about 150 people in the UK coming to
our organization and those people rejected.
They did not want to come to an Indian organization.
Today, there is no issue at all and they
would move and we have close to about 10,000
people who are non-Indians within our organization
at this time.
This is the structure, a fairly complicated
structure but then one will have to be able
to live through a complex structure. There
are different companies in many countries
that are cascading. There are holding companies
in many of these countries and there are
their subsidiaries and so on and of course
we have been essentially expanding our reach.
Just about 5 years back in 2002, when our
revenue was 0.9 billion USD, it is actually
21% of TCS’s last year revenue. So
it has been a phenomenal growth in the last
5 years where North America accounted for
51.1% but their share has come down to 50.9
but we have a significant presence in Continental
Europe, Asia-Pacific and so on. So it is
a very major movement that has taken place.
But more importantly, along with the movement,
there are different nationalities of people
we have. We have Hungarians, Chinese, Chileans,
Americans, Australians and there are over
1000 people from England who are employed
with us.
Summing up, the key differentiator, as
I would like to emphasize is really a global
mind set that one needs to adopt and there
are quite a few global corporations such
as my own Corporation, and a lot global
corporations in the pharma industry. So
there are many of them coming, but then
all of us have tended to essentially learn
how to go about it and some attributes of
this global mindset that we have acquired
over this period and learn. No compromise
on governance and ethical issues and that
is one given. It does not matter which part
of the world you are from, no compromise
has to be made. High standards in transparency
and reporting and once you take that then
obviously you are complaint everywhere and
being corporate citizens in every country
that you are operating in. If Katrina happens
you have to be a corporate citizen as far
as that country is concerned. You cannot
say that India is a poorer country and I
am going to be spending here. You have got
to be a corporate citizen in any country
that you are operating in. Continuous benchmarking
in a way is an improvement that will have
to take place as you go along. Recognizing
and managing risks, because reputation risk
becomes that much extended as a result of
being a global corporation. Adopting the
global best practices because you are no
longer an Indian company and of course last
one is that learning to think big is very
critical. So financial management especially,
becomes very challenging and exciting when
you are growing into a global MNC.
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