A
summary of the address delivered by Dr Nachiket
Mor, President, ICICI Foundation for Inclusive
Growth at MMA Annual Convention 2008 held
on 15 & 16 Feb 08 at Taj Coromandel
Hotel, Chennai.
The world view I bring is the world view
of much more pragmatism and to see what
we can actually do about this whole challenge
rather than a view that is defining the
problem. We all know what the issue is or
perhaps we need to understand it better,
but what I want to try my hand at through
the foundation is to see if we can actually
do something about it.
It is not as if we are the only country
in the world that has poverty or that there
are people around the world who have not
tried to address it, like Bangladesh who
are much smaller than us, no doubt, but
much poorer, much more exposed to the natural
elements and the uncertainties caused by
it. I have not been there but whatever I
have heard more recently from Mrs. Kishwar
Alhuwalia, that Bangladesh does not have
the grinding poverty issues that we have
in India and they have most certainly been
able to, using a variety of ways, deal with
certain issues in a certain way. They don’t
have the growth we have and they don’t
have some of the opportunities that we have,
So, I thought let me take you through a
quick snapshot of an approach that we are
trying to adopt, in partnership with a local
entity called IFMR.
They have created a new business incubator
called IFMR Trust which actually has nothing
to do directly with IFMR. It is a separate
entity, it is a fore profit private equity
fund actually, but works quite closely with
IFMR, which is why it shares the same name.
IFMR, as you know, has a very strong relationship
with MIT. MIT has something called the Poverty
Action Lab in which they do a fair amount
of work on the ground, trying to understand
in an action oriented mode what the issues
are and what may be done about them. And
in some ways, the Trust is born from that
spirit.
The thought process behind the Trust and
behind what the Foundation is trying to
do is that there is an engine of growth
that is producing 8-10 % growth numbers.
The economists believe that the right growth
numbers for us should be 7%. By growing
at 9 or 10 we are overheating. But nevertheless
it is well beyond the 3 ½ % that
we have historically seen, very much a number
that is much higher than the number that
we have been used to.
Is there a way that, using careful thinking,
using innovation, using many of the new
ideas, we can link the challenges of growth
of a larger group of people, 400-500, you
can define what is the actual number depending
on your favourite definition of the poverty
line. Is there a way that we can link their
fortunes in an organic symbiotic way to
this engine of growth and the belief is
indeed that is possible to do. There are
reasons why it is not happening and can
one take some approach and try and address
it?
The Trust is a holding company. It has
three broad components that it is proposing
to launch. One is called the Network Enterprise
Fund. I will explain in a minute what that
is. Other is a Financial Services Channel
and the third is the Non-Bank Finance Company.
The Network Enterprise Fund is a fund that
comes from the belief that the problems
in rural India and amongst the poor can
be viewed as problems of supply chain failures
rather than as problems that are inherent
in the production or in the demand side
of India. I will get into the details of
what is the logic that produces that belief.
The Network Enterprise Fund therefore invests
only in supply chain companies. It will
not invest in the producer, in the marketeer,
but it will only invest in the stuff that
goes on in the middle such as logistics
companies and certification companies. Finance
is very much an enabler: it is a supply
chain by itself, but often times you can
give an order to a small manufacturer and
they are not able to fulfill it because
they do not have working capital finance.
So sometimes supply chains break down because
somewhere in the middle there is a credit
constraint and they are not able to connect
the complete supply chain properly. Clearly
the idea is to try and see if we can directly
focus on supply chain failures.
What are some of the insights that are
driving this whole belief that it is indeed
possible to intervene in these supply chains
in a corporate manner using private equity,
return and equity numbers? The fund is promising
people something like 15-25% return and
equity, which in the days of stock market
growth of the type we have seen, may not
sound like much but it is an attractive
rate of return given that many companies
are delivering that kind of ROE.
There are two broad insights. One is that
the rural customers pay more in absolute
terms not in relative terms. If you ask
somebody what it is that they are paying
for health care, they are actually paying
more money in terms of Rupees than in a
normal situation that they might be paying.
If you look at drinking water, clearly to
get pure drinking water, they are paying
a lot more money. Credit is entirely obvious,
both from the money lenders and in fact
you might argue from micro finance institutes
and from self help groups: The lowest rates
of interest that the self help groups offer
today are 24% per year. Significantly higher
given a zero default: a situation in which
you have the credit risk that is comparable
to that of a home loan in the order of 25-30
basis points, 0.2 -0.4%. Why is it that
the interest rate is 24%? There is some
logic about cost structure but as far as
the customer is concerned, he is paying
a price that is significantly higher than
somebody with the same credit risk. I could
argue to you that in urban areas, where
there are higher credit risks, there are
customers who are paying even higher rates
of interest. You can take a short term personal
loan that you may borrow from an ICICI Bank
or a Citibank. That is 35% but with a default
rate of 8%. These guys are defaulting only
at ½ %. How is it that they are paying
such a high rate? So this is one issue.
A more popular example is the sachets that
you get from the FMCG companies. One argues
that they are very attractive sachets that
you are selling shampoos and oil in, but
look at the price per gram that the customer
is paying for that sachet relative to what
you would be paying if you had bought the
bottle. It is significantly higher. Because
of credit constraints, the customer cannot
have a bottle in his home and buys the sachet
and ends up paying a big number.
Second, the belief is, overall in a house
hold, there is some spare capacity. People
are not, either in terms of quality of work
that they are doing or in terms of the time
that they are spending, fully employed.
I sense that there are too many people doing
too few tasks. There is some spare capacity
there that one can actually use. At the
same time you are experiencing severe shortages
in urban economies. You ask a construction
company and they are telling you that there
is no construction labour to be hired. I
understood from somebody that Chinese construction
companies are bidding in India with labour.
It is an interesting situation that they
are bringing labour from China to help us
do our construction work when in fact we
have an enormous capacity in the country.
But somehow the supply chain is not getting
connected up smoothly. If you look at retailers,
everybody has gone out and built these big
malls. But on the shelves, there is not
enough to put. You are not getting enough
variety, not getting enough product design.
It is all the same stuff that you are buying
which is cheap but not getting enough value.
Many people are using real estate place
to get into it but what about the product?
Clearly, in the interface to market, there
are two issues. One is remoteness: The producer
or the supplier of labour is situated in
the back of beyond and is not able to connect
somehow because the distance is just so
far that it produces information that is
symmetrying and produces transactional costs.
Is there a way that in our view, there is
a commercial opportunity for companies that
actually focus on somehow trying to fix
this failure of the supply chain? And our
sense is that this is what these companies
will actually try to do.
Which are the sectors and companies? There
is actually just one company in each sector
that they want to do. They have already
done investments in five companies. The
water companies, for example, sells water
at 4 paise a litre to the household. And
if they want it home delivered, they sell
it at 6 or 7 paise per litre. There is already
a 60% capacity utilization, there are hundred
water plants that are operative, each plant
serves about a population of 10,000 people,
and the amount of money they are absorbing
currently is in the neighbourhood of about
50 crores in terms of total investment required.
This is in collaboration with Dr Reddy’s
Labs. There is a potential for 5000 plants
to come about, each of them commercially
selling water at 4 paise a litre. Skills
training is an area which seems to be of
common interest. This whole issue of how
can you build a multi layer kind of filtering
process. There are companies in Bangalore
for example, that are “temping companies”.
These are companies that hire people on
permanent contract but offer them on temporary
assignment to companies. They recruit one
person every 6 minutes. Now this company
is telling us that if they had supply of
labour that is trained at a minimal level,
they could become 4 times the size they
are today. Today they are about 1 lakh people
per company and they would go to 4 or 5
lakh. But they do not have supply. Their
view is to build a supply chain for them,
of people that are filtered slowly: some
basic training given right where the person
is and some basic filteration in terms of
discipline is done right there. Once you
have a sense that this person can actually
graduate to the next level, then bring him
to a city, give him much more organized
training and then feed him into a job.
The strategy is identify sectors in which
producers have a competitive advantage,
for example, if a rural household in a craft
sector can use an hour of spare capacity
that the woman of the house has to stitch
a pillow case, is there a way you can build
a supply chain that can deal with that much
diversity, that much variety and still deliver
a consistent quality to a Big Bazaar or
a Fab India? The belief is that it is indeed
possible to do so. So far the money that
these guys have put to work across these
4-5 sectors is not very large. It is about
50 or 60 crores in total across these 4-5
sectors but the early evidence is that these
supply chain failures can be fixed and it
is possible to do so in a competitive manner
with no subsidy. The idea is that you are
taking the competitive capability of the
poor household. One of the benefits that
households bring is that they are distributed
geographically. One of the large FMCG companies
approached us and said that their “Atta
Strategy” in which they where making
the atta centrally and distributing across
the country has failed. Because the Indian
housewife is not prepared to pay a premium
for the atta since the transportation cost
is enormous. The company wanted to know
if we can build them 700 production centres
across the country each one of them only
serving the nearest city and they said can
you give us a minimal level of quality control?
They gave us a price point of Rs 23 per
kilo of atta in every city. They said at
that price, they will add Rs 2 or Rs 3 as
marketing margin and sell as much of atta
that we can produce. Now that is a fabulous
opportunity for a low income producer.
Paint brushes, again another opportunity
nationally. They want 1500 production centres
across the country, because once again the
transportation cost is enormous. Wherever
a lot of variety is needed, women’s
clothes or garments for example, is an area
where the poor can be very competitive.
We are working with the Pune Municipal Corporation
for example, where a small group of 150
women making products that are just of a
unique design that are only required in
small lot sizes, not big lot sizes. But
they can make them in a competitive manner.
And the idea is to try and actually go out
there and build this stuff.
Certification is an important reason why
supply chains fail. You are a seller and
you are buyer but you do not know each other.
Think of rural schools from that perspective.
You know English Medium works. When they
are spelling English Medium with a spelling
mistake in the word “medium”
you know exactly there is a problem in the
certification process. Is it possible to
build a certification, not for a brand like
a Delhi Public School brand, but for a Mass
Rural School brand? In Bihar, for example,
we visited a healthcare entity called Janani
that has built two brands, Thithli and Surya,
butterfly and the sun. And they have advertised
Thithli brand all over the place. Now I
am not entirely sure that the full claim
that they make in terms of service delivery
is fulfilled by the product. But indeed
the brand has added value, and it is possible
it could work here. Each one of these are
specific examples of innovations that are
happening that has potential
.
I will stop here, there is a fair amount
of detail. The core idea that I want to
leave with you is that it may be possible
for us to go out there and use the fact
that there is a supply chain failure. Use
the best possible understanding, and even
as we speak, the team at the IFMR Trust
is going through a six hour session from
a supply chain expert, who has run one of
the best known courier companies, to try
and understand how these hand offs work
and how do you make sure that you have extremely
long supply chains.
Courier companies work on the longest of
all supply chains. Individual to individual:
They can pick up at the most remote location,
aggregate all the way to an airport, fly
it down, and again take it back to the individual.
How do they make sure that all of the pieces
actually fit together when they are relying
on railways, public transportation etc.
to make it happen? Clearly, our sense is
that we could actually go out there and
do this overall work. Of course, those who
are interested in learning more about it
there is a website address here. It’s
not ICICI, there’s an independent
company, ICICI Foundation is partnering
with it to try and make sure that they are
able to be effective on the ground?
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